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Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

last days i noticed that most ppl dont run firewall actually
how about u? what firewall do u run or do u run firewall at all?
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

h/ware f/w and software: visnetic + a webguard
Chucky
n00b
Posts: 22

harware, software (plus Hex fw)
Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

h/ware >.< as meka said + s/ware: comodo firewall pro & hexhub (i dont have the hub running 24/7 though)
b_w_johan
Regular
Posts: 56

hilarious so i'm the onlyone without a firewall ?? there goes youre theory, 1 out of 4 doesn't have firewall
this is my server i'm talkin about btw, i meen theres nothing on it excpet what i wanna share to the world so why securing it ?
Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

how about your personal computer or laptop ure using for normal stuff
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

Quoted from b_w_johan
hilarious so i'm the onlyone without a firewall ?? there goes youre theory, 1 out of 4 doesn't have firewall
this is my server i'm talkin about btw, i meen theres nothing on it excpet what i wanna share to the world so why securing it ?

so why securing it ? < because if its hacked, and a virus is dropped on there, you wont sharing anything to the world....
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

oh well... let it be a  honeypot
HFW: 2 routers
SFW: Agnitum outpost
b_w_johan
Regular
Posts: 56

my computer and laptop both using windows firewall + one random free one i find "arround the internet" + antivirus scanner.
but still, almost every 6 month i reinstall everything ....
for some reason windows doesn't like to run stable for years in a row .... with 2 weeks uptime it needs a reboot since ram is used 100% and in few month everything is slown down etc
maybe i should get a Mac/macbook & linux for server
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

or maybe you should run decent security and it wont happen, it probably needs reinstalled because its being infested with spyware and viruses.....
and macs suck
b_w_johan
Regular
Posts: 56

my server ?
don't think so its only in use when i update server software or do a system reinstall, so how can i get a virus on it, and second how would others plant a virus on a windows 2003 server with just apache mysql and 2 hubs nmdc and adc put virus on it?
my computer, since when is Nod32 bad ?
where i work we sell 2 antivirus products Nod32 homeuse, Norman virus controll for offices.
and for Mac, not sure it looks funny and what ive been told at school its one of the most stable OS and tere aren't that many viruses etc ... but maybe thats because this Mac dude came to NL for college i bet he doesn't tell how bad it is
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Hi johan,
I think Meka-Meka meant that he doesn't like Mac OS because of the lack of customization, and it's not really learnfull for a computer geek (there are just no problems to solve). The Mac's hardware instead is quite impressive. If I were you I would buy a Mac and put another OS on it.
greetz
b_w_johan
Regular
Posts: 56

macs are sold with bost vista and mac on it
and about that geek part i think theres a lot to learn from it especially when you get mac as server
i can get a certificate via school to become mac pro will be evening classes for few month, then i should be able to attach mac to any network
and since we had this dude over at school we have special prices not sure how many % is off the original price but we have more % sales then other students of other schools
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maybe we should get us a new topic to talk about Mac
Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

screw the mac, they all look stupid and for the viruses im not that sure, when u dont see em doesnt mean they dont exist
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

I don't think there are many viruses on a Mac, mayby one or two but they sure would become noticeable when there were a lot... Quick search gave me this result: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=nl&q=viruses+on+mac&lr=
Which are not dangerous at all.
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

1 or 2 viruses.. lol
its like saying for windows therer are about 100 viruses.. but there are much more .. the other thing is how many are discovered and how many of those are smarter then a little kid made virus in VB6 which trys to delete your data from your hard drive 
Anyway, if there will be more MAC users then there will be more viruses made..i guess the evil virus coders feels like wasting theyr time, because just few ppl of 100 use MAC..
I know many music producers use MAC, because there is a producing studio for it called 'Logic', which was for PC (windows) too some long time go, but now they release it just under MAC. Its top class software used by so many pro's, so i guess this has become the reason for some to use MAC  :roll:
I never tryed MAC, however, ppl who i know, who are using MAC, all are happy with it and wouldnt change it for PC 
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

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1 or 2 viruses.. lol
its like saying for windows therer are about 100 viruses.. but there are much more .. the other thing is how many are discovered and how many of those are smarter then a little kid made virus in

Have you discovered them? How do you know it's more than 2 than lol  :roll:
PS: viruses for Mac don't get created in VB6
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

macs now use pc hardware, pcs are nowadays much more powerful then any mac on the market, fuck what anyone says, i work with pcs and macs... its my profession..., macs do not have enough developers hence, they also use a linux based OS, why not install linux on your 'server'....linux also sucks, it has more holes then a second hand dartboard....
nod32, is the most unstable piece of crap ive ever used, its too much like a norton without the bulk.... macs can be customizable but they're shite.... why dont police use macs??? or hospitals.... ? oh because macs are shite, they wouldn't waste there time or risk peoples lives using a mac... lol, macs are ok if you a music developer, and that is about it, but nowadays you can get more from a pc developing music, then you can with a mac, there are not many viruses for macs, but then again, its because the software for a mac is shit, so no one uses them apart from numpties that have no idea of `real` computing.... if macs were as good as they are sposed to be why did bill keep them in business numerous of times....because there is nothing that comes close to matching a pc, so he doesnt care....
mac head avertisement...
WHY BUY A PC WHICH CAN RUN LINUX AND WINDOWS IN REALTIME??????????!111one!!???, WHEN YOU CAN BUY A MAC, WHICH CAN EMULATE WINDOWS, AND RUN OUR CRAP VERSION OF LINUX, WITH ITS INTEL CORE 2 DUO, WE CAN BEAT (*small print, this does not include windows pcs with anything over a celeron processor*) ANY PC.
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

and if you reply with (well you can run windows on a mac in realtime) then WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF BUYING A MAC, i rest my case....
Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

btw maybe we could create new topic bout the PC/MAC thingy... coz this going into offtopic here
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Quote:
nod32, is the most unstable piece of crap ive ever used, its too much like a norton without the bulk....

Hi,
I totally agree with you except on 1 sentence in the whole dialogue. I can't resist not posting my reply because I just do want to exchange opinions here.
lol, maybe an anti-virus discussion topic too because I don't think NOD32 is unstable it is running forover a year on my computer and has captured any threat. I too had some serious doubts on my anti-virus so one day I installed Kaspersky and Bitdefender and ran a scan without any results found, so either way they all are shite or NOD32 did a great job.
greetings
nina
Meka][Meka
Unstopable
Posts: 700

avast is free, and it found 10x more viruses then an updated version of nod, and avast was outdated... i do virus removals for customers on a daily basis.... also if you have the pro version of avast it is brill....
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Thanks Meka. I will try avast for now 
Ashura
Unstopable
Posts: 370

AntiVirus for free!: http://www.meka-meka.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=499
Good firewall for free!: http://www.meka-meka.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443
reviews are bit old but i think the info could be renewed or since the apps are free just download the updates for em
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
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1 or 2 viruses.. lol
its like saying for windows therer are about 100 viruses.. but there are much more .. the other thing is how many are discovered and how many of those are smarter then a little kid made virus in

Have you discovered them? How do you know it's more than 2 than lol  :roll:
PS: viruses for Mac don't get created in VB6

yes they wont in vb6, but there are BASIC language compilers for MAC too..
To mention one - RealBasic, compiles codes for windows, linux, and mac...
So anyone who knows vb6 could do it in RealBasic, ofcourse there are little differences but that is offtopic
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Realbasic sucks big time. The virus probably won't work this way when you use this you're really n00b.. You can't compile a Windows virus for a Mac. Plus why would the so called viruses be so good that they didn't get discovered yet.. Just read this page. I'm out for school, see ya
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Twday I stumbled upon this article: http://www.virusbtn.com/Session-40cead00d663b8ca00efbb5ad3661137/news/2007/08_22a.xml.
I don't care what there results say but I wonder how such bad anti-virus programs reach the top of the list.
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
Realbasic sucks big time. The virus probably won't work this way when you use this you're really n00b.. You can't compile a Windows virus for a Mac. Plus why would the so called viruses be so good that they didn't get discovered yet.. Just read this page. I'm out for school, see ya

i never said someone could compile windows virus to work on mac, but create a mac virus from scratch using RealBasic.
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Plus why would the so called viruses be so good that they didn't get discovered yet..
Because they are created by some sort of "mastermind" maybe? The REAL bad hackers, who know theyr THING, and knows the tricks to make theyr virus,spyware,trojan invisible, and so on..
LOL Ok... RealBasic - i have just checked it out but you say it sucks like you have been working with it for longer time.. So why does it suck?!  Only thing i found bad about it is that it cant create DLL's (yet?).
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

they don't have the time and need for making viruses for Mac so...
Realbasic doesn't point its arrows on Mac.. many native things in the OS can't be used, like u said yourself lol
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
they don't have the time and need for making viruses for Mac so...
Realbasic doesn't point its arrows on Mac.. many native things in the OS can't be used, like u said yourself lol

well if THEY will find a need then will find time too probably 
but you still didnt answer my question, why does RealBasic suck? 
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

I did answered your question, and you did also.
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
I did answered your question, and you did also.

i said that you cant do dll's in RealBasic(did you knew that at all? lol), not like all ppl code dll's anyway.. So i never answered that question.. just you shouted out like REALBASIC SUCKS!!!!!!! that i though you must hate it for SOME reason...
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

Reasons enough why Realbasic sucks... http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?RealBasic
this thread is getting too long just for convincing you
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
Reasons enough why Realbasic sucks... http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?RealBasic
this thread is getting too long just for convincing you

Maybe because this was your only 'proof' you showed, except talking about things you dont know 
In that article it says the exe is just too big in RealBasic, well that has an explanation - RealBasic compiles runtime within the EXE, which means it doesnt need some DLL to run, like VB does...
Anyway no point of arguing with you, as you dont know yourselfe what you are talking about.. i guess you are trying to sound smart and all knowing, in things you dont know THAT well.. well keep it up! 
laters.
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

You don't sound that smart either to me.. Anyway, Realbasic is for beginners, so in that point of view I don't need to argue with you because you still keep telling me shite about Mac viruses created in Realbasic and Top Elite Hackers who 'could' writing viruses but not 'will'. and how wonderfull Realbasic is, keep using it then and don't let yourself intimidated with my opinion. Peace!
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No, I don't think it's like that at all. It's more like buying a kiddie bowling set at home, and playing with it. Things in realbasic just don't work... if it had some interface builder cooperation, I think it'd be worth using.

 
dzadzuks
Ametuar
Posts: 135

Quoted from Nina
You don't sound that smart either to me.. Anyway, Realbasic is for beginners, so in that point of view I don't need to argue with you because you still keep telling me shite about Mac viruses created in Realbasic and Top Elite Hackers who 'could' writing viruses but not 'will'. and how wonderfull Realbasic is, keep using it then and don't let yourself intimidated with my opinion. Peace!
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No, I don't think it's like that at all. It's more like buying a kiddie bowling set at home, and playing with it. Things in realbasic just don't work... if it had some interface builder cooperation, I think it'd be worth using.

 

AS i said - i have just tryed RealBasic, and im not using it, ofcourse i dont sound too smart, i havent said anything smart yet, just asked you some questions which you answered based on ONE GUY's OPINION, not much facts... But i asked you if you have used it, and i guess not.. Real Basic is for beginners? Well we are talking about choice between BASIC language compilers - those all are for beginners basically! Rreal Basic is in developement yet.. Anyway im not trying to defent realbasic, i just dont like when ppl puts down something of they dont know much about...
And about those viruses.. well if it compiles for mac, then i dont see a problem to create programs that does bad things.. All probably depends on how good you know mac api, which is not too 'developers friendly' as i readed in one article 
Nina
Ametuar
Posts: 134

All good dzadzuks.. But never offend me again. I don't offended you either, I just use my freedom of speech, and I say RealBasic sux, nothing more, nothing less.
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Maybe because this was your only 'proof' you showed, except talking about things you dont know

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Anyway no point of arguing with you, as you dont know yourselfe what you are talking about.. i guess you are trying to sound smart and all knowing, in things you dont know THAT well.. well keep it up!   

greetings
Ne0
n00b
Posts: 37

HeXHub + Comodo.