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Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | last days i noticed that most ppl dont run firewall actually how about u? what firewall do u run or do u run firewall at all? | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 | h/ware f/w and software: visnetic + a webguard | ||||
Chucky n00b Posts: 22 | harware, software (plus Hex fw) | ||||
Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | h/ware >.< as meka said + s/ware: comodo firewall pro & hexhub (i dont have the hub running 24/7 though) | ||||
b_w_johan Regular Posts: 56 | hilarious so i'm the onlyone without a firewall ?? there goes youre theory, 1 out of 4 doesn't have firewall this is my server i'm talkin about btw, i meen theres nothing on it excpet what i wanna share to the world so why securing it ? | ||||
Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | how about your personal computer or laptop ure using for normal stuff | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 |
so why securing it ? < because if its hacked, and a virus is dropped on there, you wont sharing anything to the world.... | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | oh well... let it be a honeypot HFW: 2 routers SFW: Agnitum outpost | ||||
b_w_johan Regular Posts: 56 | my computer and laptop both using windows firewall + one random free one i find "arround the internet" + antivirus scanner. but still, almost every 6 month i reinstall everything .... for some reason windows doesn't like to run stable for years in a row .... with 2 weeks uptime it needs a reboot since ram is used 100% and in few month everything is slown down etc maybe i should get a Mac/macbook & linux for server | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 | or maybe you should run decent security and it wont happen, it probably needs reinstalled because its being infested with spyware and viruses..... and macs suck | ||||
b_w_johan Regular Posts: 56 | my server ? don't think so its only in use when i update server software or do a system reinstall, so how can i get a virus on it, and second how would others plant a virus on a windows 2003 server with just apache mysql and 2 hubs nmdc and adc put virus on it? my computer, since when is Nod32 bad ? where i work we sell 2 antivirus products Nod32 homeuse, Norman virus controll for offices. and for Mac, not sure it looks funny and what ive been told at school its one of the most stable OS and tere aren't that many viruses etc ... but maybe thats because this Mac dude came to NL for college i bet he doesn't tell how bad it is | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | Hi johan, I think Meka-Meka meant that he doesn't like Mac OS because of the lack of customization, and it's not really learnfull for a computer geek (there are just no problems to solve). The Mac's hardware instead is quite impressive. If I were you I would buy a Mac and put another OS on it. greetz | ||||
b_w_johan Regular Posts: 56 | macs are sold with bost vista and mac on it and about that geek part i think theres a lot to learn from it especially when you get mac as server i can get a certificate via school to become mac pro will be evening classes for few month, then i should be able to attach mac to any network and since we had this dude over at school we have special prices not sure how many % is off the original price but we have more % sales then other students of other schools -- maybe we should get us a new topic to talk about Mac | ||||
Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | screw the mac, they all look stupid and for the viruses im not that sure, when u dont see em doesnt mean they dont exist | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | I don't think there are many viruses on a Mac, mayby one or two but they sure would become noticeable when there were a lot... Quick search gave me this result: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=nl&q=viruses+on+mac&lr= Which are not dangerous at all. | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 | 1 or 2 viruses.. lol its like saying for windows therer are about 100 viruses.. but there are much more .. the other thing is how many are discovered and how many of those are smarter then a little kid made virus in VB6 which trys to delete your data from your hard drive Anyway, if there will be more MAC users then there will be more viruses made..i guess the evil virus coders feels like wasting theyr time, because just few ppl of 100 use MAC.. I know many music producers use MAC, because there is a producing studio for it called 'Logic', which was for PC (windows) too some long time go, but now they release it just under MAC. Its top class software used by so many pro's, so i guess this has become the reason for some to use MAC :roll: I never tryed MAC, however, ppl who i know, who are using MAC, all are happy with it and wouldnt change it for PC | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 |
Have you discovered them? How do you know it's more than 2 than lol :roll: PS: viruses for Mac don't get created in VB6 | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 | macs now use pc hardware, pcs are nowadays much more powerful then any mac on the market, fuck what anyone says, i work with pcs and macs... its my profession..., macs do not have enough developers hence, they also use a linux based OS, why not install linux on your 'server'....linux also sucks, it has more holes then a second hand dartboard.... nod32, is the most unstable piece of crap ive ever used, its too much like a norton without the bulk.... macs can be customizable but they're shite.... why dont police use macs??? or hospitals.... ? oh because macs are shite, they wouldn't waste there time or risk peoples lives using a mac... lol, macs are ok if you a music developer, and that is about it, but nowadays you can get more from a pc developing music, then you can with a mac, there are not many viruses for macs, but then again, its because the software for a mac is shit, so no one uses them apart from numpties that have no idea of `real` computing.... if macs were as good as they are sposed to be why did bill keep them in business numerous of times....because there is nothing that comes close to matching a pc, so he doesnt care.... mac head avertisement... WHY BUY A PC WHICH CAN RUN LINUX AND WINDOWS IN REALTIME??????????!111one!!???, WHEN YOU CAN BUY A MAC, WHICH CAN EMULATE WINDOWS, AND RUN OUR CRAP VERSION OF LINUX, WITH ITS INTEL CORE 2 DUO, WE CAN BEAT (*small print, this does not include windows pcs with anything over a celeron processor*) ANY PC. | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 | and if you reply with (well you can run windows on a mac in realtime) then WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF BUYING A MAC, i rest my case.... | ||||
Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | btw maybe we could create new topic bout the PC/MAC thingy... coz this going into offtopic here | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 |
Hi, I totally agree with you except on 1 sentence in the whole dialogue. I can't resist not posting my reply because I just do want to exchange opinions here. lol, maybe an anti-virus discussion topic too because I don't think NOD32 is unstable it is running forover a year on my computer and has captured any threat. I too had some serious doubts on my anti-virus so one day I installed Kaspersky and Bitdefender and ran a scan without any results found, so either way they all are shite or NOD32 did a great job. greetings nina | ||||
Meka][Meka Unstopable Posts: 700 | avast is free, and it found 10x more viruses then an updated version of nod, and avast was outdated... i do virus removals for customers on a daily basis.... also if you have the pro version of avast it is brill.... | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | Thanks Meka. I will try avast for now | ||||
Ashura Unstopable Posts: 370 | AntiVirus for free!: http://www.meka-meka.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=499 Good firewall for free!: http://www.meka-meka.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443 reviews are bit old but i think the info could be renewed or since the apps are free just download the updates for em | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
yes they wont in vb6, but there are BASIC language compilers for MAC too.. To mention one - RealBasic, compiles codes for windows, linux, and mac... So anyone who knows vb6 could do it in RealBasic, ofcourse there are little differences but that is offtopic | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | Realbasic sucks big time. The virus probably won't work this way when you use this you're really n00b.. You can't compile a Windows virus for a Mac. Plus why would the so called viruses be so good that they didn't get discovered yet.. Just read this page. I'm out for school, see ya | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | Twday I stumbled upon this article: http://www.virusbtn.com/Session-40cead00d663b8ca00efbb5ad3661137/news/2007/08_22a.xml. I don't care what there results say but I wonder how such bad anti-virus programs reach the top of the list. | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
i never said someone could compile windows virus to work on mac, but create a mac virus from scratch using RealBasic.
LOL Ok... RealBasic - i have just checked it out but you say it sucks like you have been working with it for longer time.. So why does it suck?! Only thing i found bad about it is that it cant create DLL's (yet?). | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | they don't have the time and need for making viruses for Mac so... Realbasic doesn't point its arrows on Mac.. many native things in the OS can't be used, like u said yourself lol | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
well if THEY will find a need then will find time too probably but you still didnt answer my question, why does RealBasic suck? | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | I did answered your question, and you did also. | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
i said that you cant do dll's in RealBasic(did you knew that at all? lol), not like all ppl code dll's anyway.. So i never answered that question.. just you shouted out like REALBASIC SUCKS!!!!!!! that i though you must hate it for SOME reason... | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | Reasons enough why Realbasic sucks... http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?RealBasic this thread is getting too long just for convincing you | ||||
dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
Maybe because this was your only 'proof' you showed, except talking about things you dont know In that article it says the exe is just too big in RealBasic, well that has an explanation - RealBasic compiles runtime within the EXE, which means it doesnt need some DLL to run, like VB does... Anyway no point of arguing with you, as you dont know yourselfe what you are talking about.. i guess you are trying to sound smart and all knowing, in things you dont know THAT well.. well keep it up! laters. | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | You don't sound that smart either to me.. Anyway, Realbasic is for beginners, so in that point of view I don't need to argue with you because you still keep telling me shite about Mac viruses created in Realbasic and Top Elite Hackers who 'could' writing viruses but not 'will'. and how wonderfull Realbasic is, keep using it then and don't let yourself intimidated with my opinion. Peace!
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dzadzuks Ametuar Posts: 135 |
AS i said - i have just tryed RealBasic, and im not using it, ofcourse i dont sound too smart, i havent said anything smart yet, just asked you some questions which you answered based on ONE GUY's OPINION, not much facts... But i asked you if you have used it, and i guess not.. Real Basic is for beginners? Well we are talking about choice between BASIC language compilers - those all are for beginners basically! Rreal Basic is in developement yet.. Anyway im not trying to defent realbasic, i just dont like when ppl puts down something of they dont know much about... And about those viruses.. well if it compiles for mac, then i dont see a problem to create programs that does bad things.. All probably depends on how good you know mac api, which is not too 'developers friendly' as i readed in one article | ||||
Nina Ametuar Posts: 134 | All good dzadzuks.. But never offend me again. I don't offended you either, I just use my freedom of speech, and I say RealBasic sux, nothing more, nothing less.
greetings | ||||
Ne0 n00b Posts: 37 | HeXHub + Comodo. |